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As Support For Gay Marriage Grows, An Opponent Looks Ahead

NPR | March 23, 2013 5:02 p.m.

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Maggie Gallagher has been an outspoken opponent of gay marriage for the past decade. She debated the issue at Saddleback College this month with John Corvino (right), a gay-marriage proponent who is also a personal friend.

Maggie Gallagher has been an outspoken opponent of gay marriage for the past decade. She debated the issue at Saddleback College this month with John Corvino (right), a gay-marriage proponent who is also a personal friend.

Robert Cody Shoemake, The Lariat

As the U.S. Supreme Court prepares to weigh in on gay marriage, Mary Gallagher, one of the nation’s leading voices in opposition to same-sex marriage, is also preparing for what might come next.

Gallagher, co-founder of the National Organization for Marriage, likes to call herself an “accidental activist.” After graduating from Yale in 1982, she thought she’d write about “important things” like money and war. She never fathomed she’d end up on TV almost daily, smack in the middle of the war zone over gay marriage.

Once, when asked in an interview if she felt same-sex marriages are inherently less stable than heterosexual ones, Gallagher responded, “You think this is a question about gay couples and for me it’s a question about marriage.”

Indeed, Gallagher only started speaking against gay marriage in 2003, when, she says, she could no longer avoid it. She’d spent the prior decade writing about marriage in general — how the sexual revolution, feminism and divorce were threatening the institution and children. It was a crusade driven by her own experience as an unwed mother and the pain she saw in her own son.

“By time he was 2, he was asking where his dad was,” Gallagher says. “And I think it’s wrong to deliberately create a child, consciously depriving them of either their mother [or] father.”

Gallagher’s beef with gay marriage is actually more practical than moral or religious — although she is a practicing Catholic. If you believe that kids need a mom and dad, she argues, you simply can’t endorse same-sex marriage at the same time. And if you do send the message that a married mom and dad are not really critical, she insists, more kids will end up hurt.

A Deep Conviction

“I don’t like saying this, in one way, because it’s not like a contest. But in truth, the suicide rates of teenagers whose parents divorce are elevated at about same rates as teenagers who are LGBT,” Gallagher says. “But we don’t hear much about the one and we hear a lot about the other. You know, Lady Gaga is not making songs about it.”

That’s exactly why Gallagher says she’s focusing now on what she calls “culture creating.” She’s not quitting the fight, she says, but rather making sure the fight will go on in a post-legal world.

“I’m thinking more hard about — how do we sustain the ideal of marriage that I care about if this idea is treated as the moral and legal equivalent of racism in the public square?” she says.

Earlier this month, Gallagher debated the issue at Saddleback College in Mission Viejo, Calif. Her opponent was philosophy professor John Corvino, a gay man and gay-marriage advocate. He is also Gallagher’s co-author on the book Debating Same-Sex Marriage — and a personal friend.

On stage, Corvino says he’s often asked how he can be friends with someone who’s fighting against his rights. “The answer to that question is very simple,” he jokes. “I drink.”

It’s a crowd that overwhelmingly favors gay marriage, but Gallagher — as tough as she is sharp — pulls no punches.

“We need a social institution for attaching fathers to the mother-child bond,” she says. “And for communicating to young people — in the midst of their sexual, romantic, erotic dramas — that they have a serious responsibility to try to get this great good for their children. And that’s the heart of marriage as an idea.”

Gallagher is unapologetic to those in the audience who find her message offensive. “That cannot stop me from talking for these children on this issue,” she says. “Because I think it’s too important.”

A ‘Culture Of Marriage’

These days, Gallagher spends less time making her case against gay marriage than she does trying to convince people that there’s even a legitimate case to be made.

“I have always believed that gay people are human beings with human dignity who need to be treated with respect,” Gallagher says. “But that’s different from having a foundational norm that says there is no morally relevant difference between same-sex and opposite-sex relationships and [that] if you see one, you’re like a bigot who’s opposed to interracial marriage.”

If being on the front line of such a heated debate takes a toll on Gallagher, she doesn’t show it.

“I’m not worried about me. Maggie’s fine. Everything’s cool,” she says. “I do worry about other people — I worry when I get an email from a woman who’s a nurse in a hospital, who wrote a letter to the editor opposing gay marriage, and finds that she fears her job is in jeopardy.”

Gallagher is respected by some on the other side as smart, well-intentioned and pretty good about the facts. But even those admirers balk at her claim that gay-marriage opponents are being victimized.

“I mean, Barack Obama was against gay marriage until less than a year ago,” says Jonathan Rauch, a fellow at the Brookings Institution who’s also friendly with Gallagher. “No one went around saying, ‘The guy’s a bigot.’ “

Rauch says it is true that the shifting moral consensus is leaving gay-marriage opponents in a position that gay people know all too well.

“I don’t think what Maggie has had is a fraction of what gay people have had,” Rauch says. “That said, it’s still difficult when you feel that society is just not getting it. I know it’s hard. I’ve been there.”

It’s easier to feel empathetic, Rauch says, knowing that Gallagher is not motivated by animus. But knowing her to be intelligent and thoughtful can also be more exasperating for those who disagree with her.

Corvino says if Gallagher’s goal is to strengthen marriage, she should want everyone to marry. It’s a paradox that has troubled him since their very first conversation.

“I pulled out my cellphone at one point and showed her a picture of my partner, Mark,” Corvino recalls. “And he’s got this great smile and she looked at the picture, and she said, ‘Oh, I can see why you call him home. He’s home for you.’

“And I thought to myself, ‘Well, wait a second — how can you get that Mark is home for me … but spend your life fighting to make it the case that, legally speaking, Mark cannot be home for me?’ You know, there’s definitely a disconnect there,” Corvino says.

‘I Just Don’t Believe In Inevitability’

What Gallagher will never understand, however, is how gay marriage could ever be considered “marriage.” She’s focusing now on new ways to strengthen what she calls the “culture of marriage,” through the arts and churches, for example.

With several polls now showing public support for gay marriage at greater than 50 percent and growing, Gallagher says she’s less optimistic about her cause than she used to be, but still holds on to hope.

“I was told when I was young that there would be no more people opposing abortion and that communism was the inevitable way of future,” she laughs. “So, first of all, I just don’t believe in inevitability.”

But Gallagher has adjusted for the possibility. A decade after declaring that gay marriage was threatening civilization, her mission has evolved from staving off the threat to making the world safe for dissent.

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