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Don_Estrano's comments:
on Unschool
About the 'schoolers:
I've worked with....like had to supervise an adult raised this way...worthless! Poorly socialized weirdos that know everything under the sun. I admire the idea, and at one time even felt that it could be a great option to what I went through being in urban Catholic school for years and then urban public high school. I faced violence, sex, racism, sexism and vicious social politics, and then I graduated and found out...about violence, sex, racism, sexism and the vicious politics of the real world.
I face the real world and respect the idea of being part of a people. If you live in a town like Eugene where you run into these 'schoolies' you know 'homeschoolies' right away. Not from the cape and wizard hat alone but the....it's just weirdness. They obviously don't get social mores, subtle vocal and physical cues and they usually show signs of having their worst habits molly coddled. I am from San Francisco, born and raised, I've met weirdos and then I met 'homeschoolies'. They can't WORK, atleast the ones I met they have no hustle and can't keep their minds focused on the task at hand. Their script usually was not quite legible, their spelling skills were sub par for their age....this applies to all the Montessori kids I've met and a local private small high school run by the Quakers with a similar set up.
Don't count on this being any different than when Bible thumpers "school" their kids. This can work in tiny socially homogenous areas like the Willamette Valley, not in the real world...sorry, I don't believe in fairy tales. If they can't do the job...good luck in the Peace Corps...take some time to 'find' yourself in a third world tourist dictatorship...like Thailand or Mexico...come back and tell your people how wonderful living in dirt and under a boot is!
This is also a remarkably "White" phenom...don't believe anecdotes, just trust a minority on this. U.C. Berkeley doesn't know what to do with all the overqualified Chinese females who make it in freshman year, almost all of which come straight from public school. In Catholic school and public school I met, befriended, dated, knew and was familiar with:Indonesian nobility, Nigerians, Tongans, Samoans, Philipinos, El Salvadorians, Mexicans, other mixed kids like me, Toi Sonese, Guan Dongese, Taiwanese, Russians, Estonians, Czechs, Uzbeks.....shall I go on? I'm not buying this as a better method, just another way of creating a failed employee.
I've worked with....like had to supervise an adult raised this way...worthless! Poorly socialized weirdos that know everything under the sun. I admire the idea, and at one time even felt that it could be a great option to what I went through being in urban Catholic school for years and then urban public high school. I faced violence, sex, racism, sexism and vicious social politics, and then I graduated and found out...about violence, sex, racism, sexism and the vicious politics of the real world.
I face the real world and respect the idea of being part of a people. If you live in a town like Eugene where you run into these 'schoolies' you know 'homeschoolies' right away. Not from the cape and wizard hat alone but the....it's just weirdness. They obviously don't get social mores, subtle vocal and physical cues and they usually show signs of having their worst habits molly coddled. I am from San Francisco, born and raised, I've met weirdos and then I met 'homeschoolies'. They can't WORK, atleast the ones I met they have no hustle and can't keep their minds focused on the task at hand. Their script usually was not quite legible, their spelling skills were sub par for their age....this applies to all the Montessori kids I've met and a local private small high school run by the Quakers with a similar set up.
Don't count on this being any different than when Bible thumpers "school" their kids. This can work in tiny socially homogenous areas like the Willamette Valley, not in the real world...sorry, I don't believe in fairy tales. If they can't do the job...good luck in the Peace Corps...take some time to 'find' yourself in a third world tourist dictatorship...like Thailand or Mexico...come back and tell your people how wonderful living in dirt and under a boot is!
This is also a remarkably "White" phenom...don't believe anecdotes, just trust a minority on this. U.C. Berkeley doesn't know what to do with all the overqualified Chinese females who make it in freshman year, almost all of which come straight from public school. In Catholic school and public school I met, befriended, dated, knew and was familiar with:Indonesian nobility, Nigerians, Tongans, Samoans, Philipinos, El Salvadorians, Mexicans, other mixed kids like me, Toi Sonese, Guan Dongese, Taiwanese, Russians, Estonians, Czechs, Uzbeks.....shall I go on? I'm not buying this as a better method, just another way of creating a failed employee.
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