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I didn't hear any steelhead studies being referenced in this program. Of course steelhead are not salmon and shouldn't be used to compare.

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Scottmil,

Methinks you are baiting (pun intended), but I'll bite.

Salmon exist for their own sake, not for us to eat. (Having them around to eat is our great fortune.)  So even if we stop eating them that is no reason to let them go extinct. That is what you seem to be implying by writing "we won't need hatcheries."  If I am misinterpreting the sentiment, please let me know.

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When I was listening to a rebroadcast on the radio about how hatchery fish tasted different, I could hardly contain myself.  EVERYONE on the show was confusing HATCHERY salmon with FARMED salmon.  When someone buys a "wild" salmon from Oregon, Washington or Calif., they most likely are buying a hatchery raised fish (because most salmon off the OR/WA/CA coast is hatchery raised).   However, it left the hatchery, went to sea and then came back.  It was caught by a fisherman and sold as wild. Farmed fish aren't caught, they are harvested.  One reason Higgins said he could tell the difference between "wild" and "hatchery" (sic) salmon by looking at them is that 95% of farmed salmon are Atlantic Salmon, not Pacific salmon.  They look VERY different. (Atlantic have a more trout-like look to me, but that may just be me.) Follow this link to more info about farmed salmon from an industry website:  http://www.salmonoftheamericas.com/oceanfarming/facts.html

I wish that someone during the show would have caught the mistake and corrected it.

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Scottmil,

The reason the tribes are co-managers has nothing to do with religion or the view by some that salmon are "sacred".  It is due wholly and solely to their treaty rights as sovereign nations.  I could be wrong but if it weren't for the tribes the salmon would have been wiped out decades ago by the choices made by the US (e.g. dams, which cause a barrier to both upstream and downstream salmon travel, destruction of riparian habitat by cattle grazing and logging without mitigation until fairly recently.)

Just to be clear.  I am not a native American, but I am a native Oregonian.

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In response to rhilcorbett
Your suggestion about putting a casino in the heart of Portland makes way too much sense and therefore will be ignored.

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kodapup,
Let's encourage people to move to where the jobs ARE, not move jobs to where the people are, especially in environments that would suffer from increased population pressure.
Many more of us would love to live in the Gorge than the Gorge can accommodate. Why encourage that?
PS I don't live in the Portland area.

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farmerziffle,
You should read "Collapse" by Jared Diamond to hear about environmental problems in Montana.

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I haven't read all the responses, nor did I hear the program, but I've talked with friends about this in the past. I realize the condos and casino are a big deal, but the real problem in my opinion is the --cking Dalles dam that drowns Celilo falls. My parents used to go watch the indians fish the falls. I was born just too late and I feel robbed. I can't imagine how robbed the indians must feel. For the sake of salmon what we should really be fighting for is dam removal. Especially the Snake river dams. John Kitzhaber has a great plan for this. Listen to him sometime.

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mjrepar:
Ghandi said "the earth supplies enough for every man's needs but not enough for every man's greed."

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Tim,
Your first sentence is not precisely correct. The Columbia Gorge area does NOT need all those things you list, rather the communities of the Gorge and the people in those communities would benefit from those things. I think the different is important. The Gorge doesn't need us or our communities.

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