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Rick00's comments:
on Measure 60: Teacher Pay
Achievement is always based off of standardized tests. How well someone does on these tests depends more on how well they take tests than how well they learn.
My daughter, who has her masters, didn't take tests well. She did OK with tests, but always did well on the labs and projects she did. She really struggled with standardized tests. She had taken the test to get into grad school several times. During middle school it was a struggle to getting her into classes that would challenge her. If we had relied on standardized tests, she would have been bored in simple classes and may not have finished high school.
My son was very different. He took tests very well. He takes after me. He has his bachelors.
Standardized test scores make people feel good, but aren't a good indication of learning. There is a second big factor in children's successes. That their parents involvement. At high school parent teacher conferences, we had finished standing in a long line for one teacher and were standing in a long line for another teacher. We talked to a teacher who was reading the paper because there was no one there to see him. We asked what he taught. It was science. We said it was odd he didn't have anyone because we had just stood in a long line to see a science teacher. His reply was, "that's because Dr. Helmen has the advanced students." I then realized, that we had seen the same parents at parent-teacher conferences and other events. It's the parents who are involved with their children's education that have the good students.
My daughter, who has her masters, didn't take tests well. She did OK with tests, but always did well on the labs and projects she did. She really struggled with standardized tests. She had taken the test to get into grad school several times. During middle school it was a struggle to getting her into classes that would challenge her. If we had relied on standardized tests, she would have been bored in simple classes and may not have finished high school.
My son was very different. He took tests very well. He takes after me. He has his bachelors.
Standardized test scores make people feel good, but aren't a good indication of learning. There is a second big factor in children's successes. That their parents involvement. At high school parent teacher conferences, we had finished standing in a long line for one teacher and were standing in a long line for another teacher. We talked to a teacher who was reading the paper because there was no one there to see him. We asked what he taught. It was science. We said it was odd he didn't have anyone because we had just stood in a long line to see a science teacher. His reply was, "that's because Dr. Helmen has the advanced students." I then realized, that we had seen the same parents at parent-teacher conferences and other events. It's the parents who are involved with their children's education that have the good students.
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