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on Are You Down With LNG?

This is the best information you will ever find in regard to why we should not allow an outrageous energy bill to dictate to the states of Oregon and Washington.
I received a call today from Washington's governor's personal aide. The end result of that conversation was that the governor of Washington is still not willing to take a stance in regard to this LNG issue, even though it portends termendous threats to a shared industrial , economic and environmental blessing , The Columbia River! Washington is just as threatned as Oregon in regard to port systems and pipeline issues. Our regional geology alone is enough to make Nastrodamous (how ever you spell that) roll over in his grave. And Coos Bay? What a rape! We must stand together now , We must fight for what our pioneer ancestors forsaw when they put down roots in this wonderful and nurturing region of the United States. We don't need this infrastructure! We don't need these avoracious and greedy market wolves in our farmlands and parks and we don't need a Federal Agency whose main mandate is to create a permanante infrastructure in this wonderful and still pristine part of our nation states which won't allow this infrastructure in their own territory, or are land bound and don't have a waterway that will fall prey to these huge foreign fossil fuel floating farms. The squeaky wheel gets the grease people, the politicans are in office for specified times, this is our power. Lets let them hear from us endlessly until they get the message. Just sign me tired and disgusted and too stubborn to give up or be threatned by the " DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?" people who forgot who we are that put them there.

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John. Aesthetics? Have you actually seen the location that is being suggested for this terminal? They may have quite a few acres there but the area where the storage units will be built is acres of dredge spoils. They say they will use vibrofloation to pound girders into the underlayment. John, the underlament is sandstone! This terminal will be located in an area which slips and slids. Right now on one side of Bradwood parts of Astoria are trying to slide down the hill. just some few miles on the other side of Bradwood highway 30 was blocked for weeks and people lost their homes due to slides. And john, this geology is not different block by block.. it is the same cobbled up, rained on, percolated sandstone,cobbles, clay, and layers of rotton basalt all up and down the lower Columbia. The Bradwood location has also experienced land slides. No, it isn't Asthetics John. it is just common sense. Please don't fool your self into thinking that this is all right brain thinking . You would be wrong.

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"Astorian"
SOME local union members may "be used to build the facility" Astorian, and 60K a year is indeed a decent salary for a miniscule percentage of the people here in the lower Columbia Basin who are looking for work. And will be looking for work when the river jams up! These LNG construction jobs are specialty jobs to a very great degree and you know what? In many parts of Cowlitz and Clatsop counties some pretty big construction companies can't find enough employees who have experience in welding, engineering, electrical wiring etc to fill their needs. I know because one of my family members is a forman for one of those companies.Don't tell me this project will find a great many more that won't be imports, even if they are union . Perhaps you work for NorthernStar, and if so you are doing your job by defending it but please don't pass out too many rose colored glasses.

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" Astorian" Noisy? do you know why automobiles have horns, why trains have whistles, why fire engines and ambulances and police cars have sirens? Because they warn us Astorian. You call us a gang? I guess people use the words on the level of their own experience but you better include your Governor, your Speaker of the house and some other pretty impressive legislators in that "gang". Actually we more often hear the term "citizen-activists." You know ,we are part of the democratic proccess. I guess it all depends whose kid has the measles HUH?

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The initial impact of a threat like this is always emotional John. But you can rest assured that these citizen activists are also doing deep research, have evolving core groups integrated with a large interstate grass roots coalition ,and are well aware of the legal issue and litigations. And though we can share thoughts on postings like this, we aren't about to disclose our own agenda. rest assured we do have one. And this grass roots movement is getting stronger every day. The interlopers in this fight once said of us that, " We are unshophistacated, uneducated, and think with our pocket books" Do any of you out there agree with that profile?

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NO and YES- I speak for many of us who do not want an LNG terminal on the Columbia River, or where it is not needed! LNG however is a life link for many countries in this world! LNG does have an excellent safety record,BUT, of course, many of the countries who rely on it don't have the "hate America" psychosis that we are faced with , thus they don't have the terrorist issues we do. So -- Yes, I am "down on LNG" in the Pacific Northwest. It was interestng to listen to NorthernStars best salesman today on your program. My anology of his speel is like that of a shoe salesman who works on comission. He or She will try to sell the most expensive shoe, the most "IN" shoe", the most popular shoe" no matter whether it fits or not. This is an instance of an excellent salesman trying to sell the Pacific Northwest something that doesnt fit. You know form virsus function. Mr. Desmond has had much experience in the form virsus function business. His previous attempts (for Governor Schwartzenegger,) to sell high voltage transmission lines to California via out of state coal fired electric generator plants was another of those form virsus function endeavors. --There are always a multitude of variables when a county, a state, or a nation has to face the future in ways that the past ,or the present won't compliment. Domestic natural gas is a bridge energy. And for the Pacific Northwest it is a reasonable energy source to lean on while we deal with the present issue of global warming and work toward forms of renewable energy that will integrate with a relativly clean fossil fuel. Liquid Natural Gas ,however is another story. Mr. Desmond himself stated that it generated more CO2 than the domestic product. Liquid Natural Gas is also an international money maker that has huge oil companies scurring to build new LNG fuel dumps in the United States before a new administration can return to each state it's right to determine what best fits its energy needs. All of this is typical commerce in a democratic capitalistic society. Thats why we must have checks and balances. In regard to the fit of any LNG terminal on the Columbia River the shoe is too big, the risk too great, and the retoric too full of salesman lingo. As with the out of state coal fired electric generator plants to send electricity to California ( no infrastructure , just sugar) we in the Pacific Northwest are being propagandized into allowing an infrastructure here to send the sugar elsewhere! The bottom line is that if we say NO and mind our checks and balances, we will be receipants of domestic natural gas from within our own country. a Rocky Mountain conduit is in progress and Alaska is pushing hard to wrest control from international oil conglomerates who have loved the status quo for far too long. Alaska has trillions of cubic feet of untapped natural gas. FERC is in a hurry to fill their conservative based mandates! So which would you prefer. A new infrastructure in the Pacific Northwest that will chain us to another foreign fossil fuel for 50 + years? Or the foresight to remain the independant region that we are reputed to be and demand our states rights to control our own and our grandchildrens energy future. let alone being stewards of a better environment.

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