There's history behind the pocket Constitutions occupiers carried at the refuge.

There’s history behind the pocket Constitutions occupiers carried at the refuge.

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Karina Brown of Courthouse News joins us this week to talk about the defense’s first witnesses, including evangelist Rev. Franklin Graham and defendant Jeff Banta.

Brown also answers whether it’s possible for the jury to find some defendants guilty and others innocent, given the conspiracy to impede federal officers charge.

Then OPB reporters Conrad Wilson and Amanda Peacher explain the constitutional beliefs of Ammon Bundy and the other occupiers.

Throughout the occupation and court case, Bundy and others commonly refer to their stalwart belief that Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution — otherwise known as the enclave clause — prevents the federal government from owning most land.

Professor Michael Blumm from the Lewis & Clark Law School in Portland explains why the enclave clause doesn’t mean what the occupiers think it does.

Finally, we explain a bit of the Mormon history behind the pocket Constitutions that Bundy and other occupiers carried at the refuge and in the courtroom.

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