
Ryan Bundy, one of the leaders of the armed militants who have taken over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, says his group has not accessed government computers on the site.
John Sepulvado / OPB
OPB’s Conrad Wilson and Ryan Haas talk with Portland-based defense attorney Kevin Sali, who explains how defense attorneys go about trying to build a case for their clients when there is a mountain of documented evidence against them. Sali also explains why conspiracy charges are the “darling of the modern prosecutor’s nursery."
Subscribe To 'This Land Is Our Land'
Subscribe to "This Land Is Our Land" on NPR One, Apple Podcasts or wherever you find your podcasts. Find comprehensive trial coverage at OPB.org/ThisLand.
Share your thoughts on the trial with us on Facebook and Twitter, or by emailing us directly at thisland@opb.org.