Food brings people together. During this major pandemic, restaurants and bars are falling apart. At the time of recording, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown had issued a ban on seated dining at the state’s bars and restaurants and Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler was considering a ‘shelter in place’ order. All this came after chefs had overstocked their larders for Portland Dining Month.

Some businesses are adapting, while still struggling; others are closed for the foreseeable future. Workers have been laid off, major events have been canceled and perishable items such as seafood have been slashed from take-away menu options. Our panelists discuss how the culinary community is faring and the power of resiliency in challenging times.

Thank you to our panelists: Vitaly Paley, executive chef and restaurateur of Paley Hospitality Group; Heather Kintler, chef and owner of Normandie; and Carrie Welch, co-owner of Little Green Pickle and co-founder of Feast Portland. And our host is Katherine Cole. This episode was recorded at Normandie in SE Portland, Oregon. Stay safe out there.

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