President Trump ordered the shrinking of two national monuments in Utah this week. Attention immediately shifted to the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument, which Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke says should also be smaller. We talk through the politics of these moves and get into Oregon Gov. Kate Brown’s actions on the thorny issues of the state budget and PERS. Short answer: task forces!

Geoff Norcross talks with EarthFix reporter Jes Burns along with OPB political reporters Jeff Mapes and Lauren Dake.